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Author:  Hènk [ June 27th, 2012, 13:04 ]
Post subject:  chance to find ur own items

i thought lets do some math on the chance of getting the right items lol.

here is a list of how many propperties every item can have:
1hwep: 46
2hwep: 46
offhand: 63
neck: 29
belt: 32
boots: 23
bracers: 26
chest: 33
gloves: 25
helm: 49 (not including class specific helm like wizards hat)
pants: 23
ring: 27
shoulders: 23

so with these numbers we could say finding a random item 6 of the stats u want is fairly low. to be more acurate:

1hwep: 1/6.744.109.680
2hwep: ^
offhand: 1/48.920.775.120
neck: 1/342.014.400
belt: 1/652.458.240
boots: 1/72.681.840
bracer: 1/165.765.600
chest: 1/797.448.960
gloves: 1/127.512.000
helm: 1/10.068.347.520
legs: same as boots
ring: 1/213.127.200 (need this one 2x)
shoulder: same as boots

so ehm this all to gether would take several years playtime to farm with 2 items per hour.
but honestly i think blizzard made some kind of system that looks at ur items and drops something with somewhat the same stats but still it takes years to get ur fullset farmed by hand.

i suggest farming money which goes pretty damn fast to buy items is the best way to go.

Author:  Winkle [ June 27th, 2012, 13:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: chance to find ur own items

I don't think the each stat has an equal chance of occurring. I believe some items will always roll a primary stat (dex,inte, str etc) for example and a primary stat mix (dex/str etc).

Also certian affixes only occur on certain ilvl items. Any items ilvl 61+ can't roll +xp for example.

Author:  Hènk [ June 27th, 2012, 13:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: chance to find ur own items

-required lvl and still being lv 60 does exist tho
i dont think a primary stat mix is anywhere close to the truth as any combination can be found on the ah neither is it true that a item has atleast one of the base stats

Author:  Hangen [ June 27th, 2012, 14:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: chance to find ur own items

Hènk wrote:
-required lvl and still being lv 60 does exist tho
I'm not sure what you are saying here.

Each item have an item level (ilvl) that can be up to 63 and a required level (lvl) that can be up to 60.
- item level is just the ilvl of the item, exactly as it is in wow.
- required level is the level that a character must be to be able to use it.
Also:
- item level 60 items = required level 59
- item level 61+ items = required level 60
Of course an item can have the "Reduce Required Level by X" property, that can change the base level requirement of the item.


Hènk wrote:
i dont think a primary stat mix is anywhere close to the truth as any combination can be found on the ah neither is it true that a item has atleast one of the base stats
True. Any combination of main stats can exists. That includes items with all the stats and items with no stats at all.
With that said, there are some random properties that cannot be rolled for certain ilvl items, like the +XP property that Winkle mention.

Author:  Winkle [ June 27th, 2012, 14:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: chance to find ur own items

Hènk wrote:
-required lvl and still being lv 60 does exist tho
i dont think a primary stat mix is anywhere close to the truth as any combination can be found on the ah neither is it true that a item has atleast one of the base stats


Yes some items have very random affixes but there's simply no way that say my helm, which has the correct itemization i want, only drops like that 1 in every 10 billion times.

Surely you can see your numbers can't be accurate.

Author:  Hangen [ June 27th, 2012, 15:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: chance to find ur own items

Diablo III - Item Affixes for reference

Author:  Hènk [ June 27th, 2012, 18:29 ]
Post subject:  Re: chance to find ur own items

Winkle wrote:
Yes some items have very random affixes but there's simply no way that say my helm, which has the correct itemization i want, only drops like that 1 in every 10 billion times.

Surely you can see your numbers can't be accurate.


well there are a set amount of items so its (1/49)*(1/48)*(1/47)... for the amount of stats u want on it if it has 6 stats it rly would be 1/10bilion.
but i agree that items that drop have something in the way of your equiped gear.
as all my items have nearly the same stats and the items that drop tend to have the same kind of stats alltho their shitty versions of my equiped ones.

mhm nice reference u got there hangen it would exclude several options but still not enough to make it farmable imo.

Author:  Rimm [ July 8th, 2012, 4:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: chance to find ur own items

I hear drop rates are highest on the AH
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the truth of the game.

Author:  Woodgnome [ July 8th, 2012, 13:08 ]
Post subject:  chance to find ur own items

Rimm wrote:
I hear drop rates are highest on the AH
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the truth of the game.

Sad, but true. Diablo II was a lot more fun in regard to loot x(

Author:  Winkle [ July 17th, 2012, 13:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: chance to find ur own items

Woodgnome wrote:
Rimm wrote:
I hear drop rates are highest on the AH
------
the truth of the game.

Sad, but true. Diablo II was a lot more fun in regard to loot x(


Is that because you didn't have the AH so your gear level was generally a lot worse and thus the chance of upgrades dropping was always much higher?

Also D2 didn't have Inferno level difficulty so the gearing requirements were much reduced.

Regardless D3 is certainly half demon slaying and half shopping.

I'm not sure what to do with my gear now though, i think i could probably earn at least 100euro on the RMAH but then i wouldn't be able to play my barb again.

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